September 2, 2025

Mary Engelbreit: Lessons from a 50-Year Art Empire

Episode 57
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Mary Engelbreit: Lessons from a 50-Year Art Empire

Episode 57

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I didn't go to college. Wasn't crazy about school and I really wanted to get out and just work. Some people do better getting out there in the workforce and just putting their talents to work.

Join host Cynthia Kirkpatrick as she interviews legendary artist and entrepreneur Mary Engelbreit, creator of one of America’s most beloved illustration brands. Mary has built a multi-generational empire through greeting cards, calendars, children’s books, licensing deals, retail stores, and a beloved lifestyle magazine. In this episode, Mary shares the simple truth about building a creative business over five decades, from selling hand-drawn cards for 25 cents in high school to creating over 14,000 copyrights.

This episode is essential listening for creative entrepreneurs, artists looking to monetize their work, and anyone building a values-driven business. Listeners will discover how to stay authentic while scaling, when to pivot away from successful ventures that don’t align with your vision, and why imperfection is often the gateway to opportunity. After listening, you’ll have a roadmap for building a sustainable creative business that can weather decades of change while maintaining its core identity.

Show Notes

Introduction and Background (00:00 – 06:12)

  • Host Cynthia Kirkpatrick introduces Mary Engelbreit on The SheLift Project Podcast, describing her as creating a ‘vast empire of cuteness’ and bringing joy through her illustrations.
  • Mary describes herself simply as ‘an artist, an illustrator’ who does children’s books and calendars, emphasizing drawing as what she loves most.
  • Parents were supportive of Mary’s artistic pursuits from early age despite neither being artists themselves, providing art supplies and encouraging her passion.

Early Career Development (07:37 – 18:09)

  • Started entrepreneurial journey in high school by hand-drawing wedding invitations, selling them to local store Fralix for 25 cents each (sold for 50 cents), later increased to 50 cents each (sold for $1).
  • Father helped transition from hand-drawing to printing process, showing early business scaling mindset.
  • Chose not to attend college, instead worked at Art Mart art supply store where she learned about art tools and met working artists.
  • Second job at small ad agency taught crucial business skills including pricing, billing, and client management – described as ‘second half of my education’.

Business Foundation and Growth (22:47 – 27:34)

  • Friend in New York publishing set up interviews with children’s book publishers, leading to advice to try greeting cards instead.
  • First major breakthrough at New York stationery show with ‘pathetic booth’ featuring 12 cards on card table, where publishers approached them about licensing.
  • Started company with husband Phil Delano, initially just the two of them plus Mary’s sister.
  • Licensing business model discovered at trade show when companies asked to license art for calendars and picture frames – ‘we didn’t even know what licensing was’.

Product Innovation and Market Positioning (27:34 – 32:16)

  • Revolutionary approach to greeting cards: illustrated quotes on the front instead of traditional flowers and animals, with detailed elaborate drawings and borders.
  • Many customers bought two cards – ‘one to send and one to keep’ – indicating strong personal connection.
  • Art reflected Mary’s real life experiences with family, making it relatable to customers who ‘recognized themselves in the drawings’.
  • Drawing style evolved with life stages – drew boys when her sons were little, switched to girls when raising granddaughter.

Business Expansion and Challenges (35:23 – 37:02)

  • Opened 12 mall locations across the country, each with consistent design formula and requiring extensive staffing.
  • Store closure decision made after 4-5 years due to management challenges with distant locations, theft issues, and diversion from core drawing focus.
  • Stores were popular as ‘meeting places for women’ who planned social outings around visits, customers disappointed by closures.

Magazine Venture (13:31 – 42:06)

  • Mary Engelbreit Home Companion magazine ran for 11 years, showcasing houses and artist studios.
  • Initial challenge: Barnes & Noble couldn’t categorize it – ‘looks like a book but it’s a magazine’ – required retooling.
  • Magazine folded in 2008 due to financial crisis impact on advertising revenue, described as Mary’s ‘biggest regret’.
  • Magazine provided opportunities to meet diverse artists and learn different approaches to art business.

Working Relationship Dynamics (47:16 – 50:22)

  • Partnership with husband Phil worked exceptionally well – ‘we never argued about it’ and enjoyed working together daily.
  • Phil transitioned from head of intake at St. Louis County Juvenile Court to join the business full-time.
  • Phil handled people management while Mary focused on art, complementary skill sets.
  • Eventually brought in outside business partners as company grew, creating different dynamics and ‘one drama after another’.

️ Creative Process and Production (59:59 – 01:01:36)

  • Drawing process: reads quote, image ‘pops into mind,’ creates pencil sketch, then pen and ink with marker and colored pencil overlay.
  • Can complete one drawing per day, sends to art department for scanning and processing.
  • Calendar production timeline: Works 1.5 years ahead as calendars appear in stores by June.
  • Draws inspiration from friends and family situations, though subjects rarely recognize themselves.

Brand Evolution and Product Lines (01:04:34 – 01:06:01)

  • Company holds over 14,000 copyrights across various products.
  • Mary Engelbreit Dark line: Black and white sarcastic cards like ‘I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but I see you are unarmed’ became unexpected bestseller.
  • Classic card ‘Life is just a Chair of Bullies’ (mishearing of ‘bowl of cherries’) remains top seller years later.
  • Current focus on collaborations with younger-targeted companies rather than long-term licensing deals.

️ Industry Challenges and Adaptation (44:00 – 58:10)

  • Technology impact: Social media and digital transformation changed magazine industry fundamentally during mid-career.
  • AI concerns: Predicts negative impact on art business as companies may choose AI over personal artistic relationships for speed.
  • Greeting card market shifted from blank cards (allowing personal messages) to pre-written sentiments as people stopped writing personal notes.
  • Licensing market changed as younger consumers less interested in figurines and collectibles than previous generations.

Business Philosophy and Success Factors (01:07:37 – 01:09:07)

  • Maintains core principle: stay true to personal artistic vision while adapting to market needs.
  • Emphasizes importance of liking and knowing employees in small business environment.
  • ‘Don’t wait for everything to be perfect’ – grab opportunities when they come and adapt along the way.
  • Key hiring advice: Get good copyright attorney and ensure people hired have company’s interests in mind.

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This podcast and all She Lift Project content represents the opinions of Cynthia Kirkpatrick and her guests. The content here is for informational purposes only, and should not be taken as professional advice – financial, legal, medical, or otherwise.

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